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The Fight For Life Virtual Class Forum
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WEEK 1 FINDING FREEDOM
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Discuss Week One in this thread.
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Brian Hardin 07/08/2011 22:33 |
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Ryan McKinney
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07/09/2011 06:16 |
This class was so helpful. I was able to identify a spirit of "you're not good enough" "your not as good as the others" that has always kinda been there. I too tried the "experiment" that Mrs. Eldridge talked about and almost immediately things were different. Praise God for his gift of authority over these evil spirits in his Precious Son's Name. I cannot wait to see what freedom's Week 2 will bring.
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Leslie
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07/09/2011 07:38 |
Me too Ryan.....this is so helpful for me. I remember this stuff after reading the book Captivating...but I forgot the part where the enemy hates me. I have listened twice now and just really needed to hear the words that John spoke out loud. The enemy is so sly and the agreements are so embedded into my life and thinking. It was revelational for me again. Breaking free of agreements is an ongoing thing for me it seems. I am also excited for next week. The second time I listened I was also thinking about what Staci said and her experiment. Me too Ryan...I needed to invite Jesus into my thought process and issues. I really can't believe how I just accept things as they are....STILL!! Yea...this idea of agreements is something I need to be vigilant about...asking God always...is it truth or a lie.....
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Servant-Ken
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07/09/2011 08:08 |
This class was so relevant to me and what goes on in my home and life. I won't go into much of it now. I recently listened to 'Walking with God' by John. I was reminded by John that I should not be angry at my wife for any of this. It also became very clear how successful satan has been in his battle of to destroy my family. I am still not convinced though that things are not so far gone. I know ths is an agreement I need to break. I have tried praying against the demons, but I am so one sided in my beliefs and goals. John and Stacy prayed together. How do you fight against out when someone else doesn't have the same belief system or is so far persuaded invites the demons in?
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Leslie
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07/09/2011 08:44 |
Ken I have been where you are....and I had some great wisdom that wasn't easy to hear given to me awhile ago.... and today I am studying with Beth Moore and Breaking Free. Our attitude and agreements can hinder everything in our lives. I hear you and understand some of how difficult it is to be up against what looks like impossibilities. We can only control ourselves Ken. So your goal is complete freedom in Christ and being in His arms. If we, [and I did, do and probably will do again], focus on the problems of others, we can't move forward with God. Our focus at all times should be the destination of complete freedom in Christ. How do we get there? We can't allow the enemy to convince us that we can't do this until the other person changes, makes a move, whatever it is...we will miss out on our own complete freedom and the enemy wins because he has taken us out. I hope I am making sense.
This message is easier for me to hear now than it was 5 years ago, because I so wanted "it" to be someone else's fault that I didn't get what I thought I wanted or deserved. I was in chains and had no power because of this. As God slowly worked on my hardened heart, I began to see my own sins and faults and all the agreements I was living with in my life. I can have complete freedom Ken, no matter the circumstances, BUT like John says, I have to be willing to fight for it. So on your journey, don't give up on that. God is capable of doing it all, for sure, but He wants us involved in the process, not so pride can take over, but so we can have more compassion for others on the journey too. :)
continued prayers for you....fight Ken, stand up and fight...you have it in you, I know you do!
Blessings and Love ~ Leslie
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Joyce
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07/10/2011 17:42 |
Well I listened and actually went beyond and started writing some of John's points down and then sat quiet and got on my knees and suddenly I found myself sobbing. I could picture this situation as a little girl and could feel the pain and just kept sobbing and found myself thinking "bad girl, you are a bad girl". I then out loud broke that agreement and asked Jesus to come into that situation. All of a sudden that little girl wasn't crying. She was sitting on the bed playing a game with Jesus. I just felt this happiness and lightheartedness that I don't believe I have ever experienced. Now as I think of this situation I have a smile on my face and joy in my heart because I am playing and having fun with Jesus. I wanted to share this because I tend to not share such things so thought I'd do it different this time. Ken I agree with Leslie, let this be and experience for you and not someone else.
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Calico
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07/10/2011 18:07 |
Brian, Ryan, Leslie, Ken, Joyce,
Just to add to what's being discussed here, I will cut-n-paste an excerpt from a letter I sent out to some DAB brothers after having attended the Wild At Heart Advanced camp last December. Already back then, my thinking was being revived and reinvigorated. My words to those DAB brothers were as follows:
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"I suppose we all took different things away from this, individual things God said to each one of us. Some of the men who attended Advanced asked for direction, some asked for clarity, some looked for encouragement. I think the operative word for my time with all of you and with God was 'healing.' I felt as if being in the midst of you men that my back was protected while the healing took place; that I was spiritually encircled by you all for my needed time of surgery under His hand. Stephen’s discernment of self-disqualification was like the small incision through which God removed a single, deeply lodged bullet from my will. If I were to have pictured myself on an operating table, then I would also say that I was silently conscious during the whole time of 'the procedure,' feeling the singular movement of His hand in me and then hearing the metaphorical 'plink' of the poisonous round being dropped into a tin basin. I am thankful to God for His movement.
Something I did not say during Stephen’s revealing of the insight of self-disqualification (and which I've since pondered on during my driving back) was that during the past year-and-a-half, I had been asked to step into education for ministry and had turned it down; I had been asked to head-up a mentor coordination group for www.settingcaptivesfree.com and had turned that down; and I had been asked to take a supervisory position at work and had turned that down too. Recently a fellow DABber had asked me to come and speak at her singles ministry that she runs, and I had declined there as well, feeling that in my damaged-life I would offer nothing to anyone for any sort of lasting impact. So: the agreement of self-disqualification needed to be broken, for the sake of the healing to have begun.
The last thing I said to John in leaving Frontier Ranch was 'for the first time in a long time, I now feel something I’ve missed for too long: power.' He grinned widely, and squeezed my hand, and then hugged me.
Indeed, how can one even have power and wield it, if one is not healed and made to be prepared for it? It’s time to live-out this life.
Blessings to you all from the road, brothers,
Stay in touch,
Praying with you,
Tom"
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Part 1 of WEEK 1 FINDING FREEDOM has been a good reminder and affirming resource to get a hold of. I am looking forward to next week's second part, but I will be re-listening to WEEK 1 FINDING FREEDOM again throughout this week, and perhaps adding more to the thread here.
Thanks, Brian, John, and Neil, for presenting this to the community. It's good!
Praying with you all,
Tom
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Bonnie
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07/11/2011 13:01 |
Hi all,
I have listened and re-listened to the 1st week of Finding Freedom. It so resonates with the very essence of my heart. The battle is waging in my own life...the lies that I continue to give agreement to bind and hamper the full work of God's Spirit to guide and speak intimately into the deep places of my heart. So, together with God's equipping the Spirit's discernment I am contending anew with confronting the lies. Leslie is right...I am in a different place than when I first heard the message. However, there is a beauty in a call of arms...to do the noble thing and enter the fray...knowing that this is open warfare...and knowing that it is an amazing thing to steadfastly march alongside my Commander. He is victorious...but the battle remains to be fought in a clear and deliberate way each day.
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