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Tell Us About Yourself and What the DAB Means To You
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Greetings from the beautiful Pacific Northwest
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Greetings from beautiful Oregon!
I have been listening to DAB for probably about a year now. Somehow I found a podcast of it thru an app on Android Market (I switched to iPhone in January and I like the DAB app).
I have been "saved" since 1 week after Easter 1979. Lord met me during church service (during the "invitation hymn" no less). Funny thing is, I thought I WAS saved because I did believe He existed but I didn't "know" Him. He opened the eyes of my heart and I went RUNNING down the isle of my church. I was crying and telling the Pastor that "Jesus was right down there" LOL
Like most people, I have experienced my time of closeness with the Lord and times of dryness thru those "wilderness" times.
Through a series of events, the Lord led me to Israel in 1993. I really didn't want to go (why would a nice Christian girl from Idaho (at that time) want to go to Israel?) Jacob wrestled with God overnight; I wrestled for MONTHS until I ran out of excuses. He totally blessed be thru that experience!
I attend a Messianic Congregation in Vancouver, WA. If you're not familiar with that type of denomination or church, we follow the Feasts of the Lord as spelled out in the Torah (Exodus, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy). We call Jesus "Yeshus" (His name in Hebrew). So, instead of "Easter" we celebrated Passover, the Feast of Unleavened Bread and First Fruits (the day He rose). For His birth, we celebrate the Feast of Sukkot or Tabernacles as it is commonly referred to. I'm sure that seems a little different to you but the Lord takes us all on our own journey with Him.
I am dear friends with Wayne Blakely - he has called in for prayer requests before (he has a ministry called "Know His Love").
Looking forward to getting to know you all.
Shalom!
Karen aka "princessredtights"
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Karen Sutton 05/07/2012 20:49 |
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Davidwayne Lackey
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05/09/2012 23:09 |
Shalom Karen, glad you joined us here on the forums. I am familiar with some Messianic groups but you mentioned some things new to me. The feast of Sukkot for the birth of Yeshua is not something I have heard about before. I'm interested if you care to tell about it. We used to several years ago have a few Messianic Jews who were regular on the forums here but they have since moved on. I hope to hear from you more. We have a real diverse group here and I believe you will fit right in very well.
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Karen Sutton
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05/10/2012 16:23 |
This article is originally longer than what I just cut and pasted but this will give you the link to the original article and the highlights of why I think Sukkot/Tabernacles was the time of His birth.
http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Christmas/JesusChistmas.pdf
2. Yeshua was conceived in late Kislev (Nov/Dec) and born 40 weeks later during Sukkot.
a. Yeshua was conceived six months after John the Baptist (Luke 1:24-27, 36). Note
that the "sixth" month refers to Elizabeth's pregnancy, not the month of Elul (cp.
Luke 1:36).
b. Six months added to late Sivan is late Kislev, which is the time of the conception of
Yeshua (note that the first day of the Jewish festival of Chanukah, the Festival of
Lights, is celebrated on the 25th day of Kislev, and Yeshua is called the Light of the
world (John 8:12, 9:5, 12:46)).
c. From the 15th day of Nisan (John's birthday), we add six months to arrive at the 15th
day of the 7th month, Tishri - the first day of the festival of Sukkot.
If the day of his birth were the first day of Sukkot, the day of his circumcision would be
the eighth day, Shemini Atzeret/Sinchat Torah, which, like the first day, is a day of
sacred assembly (Leviticus 23:39). On this day the Jews complete their annual cycle of
Torah readings and start again from Bereshit (Genesis). Simchat Torah is considered to
be a time of "fulfillment" of the Torah. The circumcision of Yeshua at this time
indicates how he had come to fulfill the Law and the Prophets (Matt. 5:17-18).
3. Circumstantial Evidences:
a. John 1:14 states that the "Word became flesh and "dwelt" with us. The Greek word
"dwelt" [skeinao] comes from the word skeinos, which the LXX (Septuagint) uses
for the mishkan (tabernacle). The name given for the feast of Tabernacles itself is
called Herotei Skeinon in the LXX.
b. King Herod most likely would used the opportunity of the Festival of Sukkot (in
Jerusalem) to perform the census (certainly not Chanukah, since he detested and
feared the Hasmoneans).
c. Shepherds would not be out with their sheep in the dead of winter in Israel.
The angel who appeared to the shepherds said, "Do not be afraid. I bring you good
news of great joy that will be for all the people" (Luke 2:10). Since Sukkot was
known as both a festival of joy and also as the "Festival of the Nations," the angel
was actually giving them a greeting for the Festival of Sukkot. This is the only
festival where the nations are positively encouraged to participate (Zech. 14:16-19).
d. After Yeshua returns and sets up His kingdom on earth, it is written that only one
festival will be celebrated by the nations: Sukkot (Zechariah 14:16) Why is that?
Could it be that this will be a worldwide birthday party for Yeshua? (all the other
festivals would have been fulfilled - Passover, FirstFruits, Pentecost, Rosh
Hashanah, and Yom Kippur, but the remembrance of His birth would remain as a
celebration).
e. The Catholic church (in 336 AD) declared December 25th (on the Julian calendar) to
be Yeshua's birthday in order to replace a pagan Roman holiday, Saturnalia.
Ironically, December 25th was a celebration of the birthday of the sun god. The early
church, in an attempt to get rid of the pagan holiday, declared December 25th to be
the birthday of the Son of God.
f. We know that Yeshua was 30 years old when He started His ministry (Luke 3:23),
and, assuming (as many Bible scholars do) that He ministered for 3 1/2 years, we
can count backwards from the crucifixion (during Passover in Nisan) 6 months to
discover his birthday in Tishri.
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Davidwayne Lackey
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05/11/2012 01:59 |
Thanks for the answer and link Karen. I found it very informative. Makes a lot of sense for what little time I've had to go over it. There is a lot to chew on here, something I love to do. It has been a question I have pondered on from time to time. This one will keep me busy for a while. I love to get into the original tongues but I got to confess I am better at Hebrew than Greek so this question has been harder for me to get a handle on. I've known for many years that December 25th was questionable and the reasons for that including replacing the birthday of the sun god with The Son of God. I still celebrate on the 25th of December simply because I don't really know the true date since it is written in scripture that Jesus was about 30 years old when He started His ministry so His actual age was hidden. What you posted however has given me something I didn't have before.
Do you celebrate the birth of Yeshua and if you do on what day do you celebrate?
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Karen Sutton
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05/11/2012 11:03 |
Hi Davidwayne -
Yes, I celebrate the birth of Yeshua at Sukkot (feast of Tabernacles) (His name is Emmanuel - God with us - Tabernacles is when God dwells with the children of Israel).
I'll be honest, it is just not "the same" listening to "Christmas" music in September/October ... doesn't "quite" work - LOL (I do love to listen to "Christmas" music in December - although I do celebrate Hannukah in December, not Christmas)
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